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Rinzler / Tron ([personal profile] notglitching) wrote in [community profile] thisavrou_log2016-04-13 08:09 pm

You can never say that I didn't try

Who: Rinzler and OPEN
When: April 14th through the 24th
Where: the Hold
What: Rinzler killed some people and copes poorly. Set after this log.
Warnings: references to character death and mindscrew, glowy injuries, unfortunate assumptions. (See also: Rinzler.)


The first place Rinzler woke up in this system was a cell. He'd been locked in after a fight with his duplicate—with Tron. Not that the enforcer had been capable then of even hearing the older version's name. Rinzler had attacked because he had to, because the overrides built in his mind detected conflict and demanded he delete the source. Since then, he's shattered that if/then chain. Chipped away at the filters on his memories, even managed, once or twice, to speak.

But he's back where he started, and he knows better than to expect things to end the same way.

For the most part, visitors will find Rinzler seated on the low bench back against the wall. Circuits burn dimly in the shadows, almost outshone by the dull glint of fractured code that covers a full half of the enforcer's core. He's turned slightly to conceal the injured side, but the spiderwebbing cracks through code and armor are obvious to see, and he doesn't have the power to refresh his shell and cover up the damage.

The low rattle of corrupted code echoes through the cell and down the corridor, though it does nothing to compete with the invectives from the user locked in one door down. Rinzler approaches shutdown just once, curled up against the wall, and if the flickering lights and twitch of limbs is any sign, it's anything but restful. The program won't notice anyone approaching then, but he probably wouldn't mind being woken.

Once or twice, Rinzler rises, pacing, frustration and the need to move boiling up through the despair. There's nowhere to go, though, nothing to do, and even that much risks opening his damage further. Maybe he should. Fracture, break, rip himself apart and leave them voxels on the floor to claim and punish. Rinzler wonders if he ever tried before. If he does, he can't remember. He wonders what they'll make him into. Alan-one had told him what would happen, told him he'd correct the fault if Rinzler fought again. Now two users are dead, and if there's any hope at all, it's that they'll decide he's too worthless to salvage.


[[ooc: the duration during which Rinzler can be visited depends largely on the results of his trial, so there may be some time-wobbling. In particular, if he ends up with solitary confinement... no longer applicable; Rinzler will be visitable for both the trial period and his sentence. ETA 2: As of the 20th, temperature conditions will be improved thanks to Vision + co.

Prose and spam both welcome!]]
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[personal profile] pleasereset 2016-04-14 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Asriel saw the footage. He really wished he hadn't, but after how they're encounter had gone in the prison, Asriel's both horrified at what took place and yet he wonders if he should've seen the signs the whole time.

And yet between Sans and Chara, it seems like EXP was something that people here were a little too eager to collect.

He stops by the hold after his shift ends at work, later in the evening. And Rinzler looks, well... awful. But no one in the hold really looked their best anyway. He has a lot of questions, a lot of whys. But seeing him curled up the way he is, Asriel decides not to ask right now.

"Rinzler...?"

Are you okay? seems like a stupid question to ask. He'll wait to see if he can even get a response.

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[personal profile] warandpeace 2016-04-14 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
"Rinzler."

The greeting was simple, if forceful. The words more meant to command attention than to placate. The damage, worse than the last time he saw him in here. Nasty. He'd seen that damage happen to him. He knew that Rinzler probably wouldn't respond. So Miller did the one thing he was good at, he just talked.

"When I first met you I was terrified. But you didn't attack me. You were more interested... in analyzing things. I don't think it was all looking for threats.

"Did I tell you why I was afraid of you? About the things... that took my arm and leg. That ruined my body. Did I tell you about them?" He didn't think he did. But sometimes things slipped his mind. Miller... to his credit, was on two legs now. But out of paranoia was still carrying his crutch. In case the artificial one failed him again.

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[personal profile] beautifulspaceraptor 2016-04-14 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
The kinds of things Rinzler had pulled would've merited at least a century in jail in the Hierarchy. Saren would have called it paltry.

Nihlus had been inclined to agree- up until Elle had cast her vote on Rinzler's trial.

Now he's less sure of himself.

J's death and failed resurrection had been the main reason for his vote and plea for a more severe punishment. You didn't kill innocent civilians and walk away with only a month in solitary confinement, unintentional or otherwise. Spearfall's death had been more of a gray area, but J's was clear as day.

And yet.

As Nihlus makes his way down to Rinzler's cell, he finds himself idly wishing for Saren's black and whiteness again- and then promptly hates himself for it. Even if the bastard hadn't shot him, it wasn't like Nihlus had a ever agreed with the older agent's ethical choices half the damn time.

What if Elle was right, anyways? Was he compromised for letting himself be swayed into thinking Rinzler deserved another chance? And with what evidence? He can't trust his instincts anymore, not when it'd let his mentor put him in the cross-hairs.

And yet.

It's not an unfamiliar doubt. This is not an unfamiliar situation. After eight years of being a Spectre and working with the people he did, doing the things he had...

He stops in front of the glass, the click of his talons fading into silence. If Rinzler looks up, he'll see Nihlus' striped face set in a carefully neutral expression.

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[personal profile] keelahselai 2016-04-14 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
She shows up not long after seeing the footage. Part of her doesn't know why she's bothering - part of her thinks she shouldn't be here, should turn around and go and...go to Engineering or finish that book on magic she's been uselessly squinting at from the library or...or something.

Somehow, though...

Well, here she is anyway.

He's damaged - she remembers him being vaguely so when they first met, though she hadn't figured it for what it was then. Now, though, it's obvious, and it's even pitiful. But apparently he won't let himself be fixed. If Rinzler were organic, she'd wonder if it was guilt. But he's not, and she's merely confused.

If he doesn't notice her, she'll tap at the wall to get his attention. Only when she has it does she say anything.

"You know, uh..." Her mask is on - her enviro-suit, too, still on from having been on board the station - and her sigh comes through as a crackle on the mic. "I haven't met the other program. Tron. We've been on board as long as each other and I've never spoken to him. Ever. The giant robots are getting hard to avoid, but I stick to rooms with low ceilings." A scoff of a laugh, but there's not much humour to it. "None of them have been killing organics, either."

She's twiddling her thumbs, a nervous gesture, not a bored one, and suddenly blurts out. "Do you have a soul?"

The words are out before she can even wonder where the hell they came from.

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[personal profile] realitywarped 2016-04-14 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki can't very well condemn Rinzler for murder, attempted or not, not with the blood of so many on hands that weren't his to begin with. At least, not witout a little more information.

And, perhaps, a little sideways sympathy. If Rinzler is a program, is it fair to judge him for what his programming forces him to do? Does he know what he does, does he have an opinion on it? Or can he see the trap, but with no way out, the way Loki

He stands by the bars, watching for a moment, before he clears his throat.

"Are you actually allowed to speak in your own defence? And if you are, do you have anything to say?"

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[personal profile] ersatzeverything 2016-04-14 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Deacon didn't expect it to be so hot down in the hold. Beats of sweat are already prickling on his brow and scalp as he sits down on the floor inside Rinzler's cell to talk semi-privately. It's making him feel a lot more unsure about this whole ship justice deal. Punishment is one thing, or eliminating a threat, but a week of this edges into torture and Deacon's not okay with that. He takes off his wig and sets it in his lap and is silent for a long time before he speaks.

"Hey."

Another long pause.

"Wanna have a staring contest?" says the man in shades to a program in a helmet. It's not what he came down here for, but it's a way to start talking. And if the person he was talking to were human, it'd perhaps catch them off guard and give Deacon a small tactical advantage for the first stages of the conversation. Rinzler isn't human, and Deacon doesn't know how he'll react, but habits are habits.

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[personal profile] neveroutwrenched 2016-04-15 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Ratchet sympathizes with the Rinzler that's pacing in the cell; with the person (was he a person?) who's trapped, frustrated, and with nowhere to go except back and forth. This trial, the hold, the Moira, this entire situation...it was impossible not to feel it pressing in on them. His eyes follow the program's frustrated path, and he can't help but feel like he's looking at some kind of visual representation of what far too many of them were feeling.

But that's where his sympathy ends.

"Hey. I need to talk to you."

He stares hard at Rinzler, waiting for a response, his arms crossed tightly, trying to keep the anger out of his expression and largely falling short.

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[personal profile] skelepun 2016-04-15 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"Rinzy!"

The voice is jovial, almost teasing, coming from the door to the hold that was certainly empty mere moments ago. The silhouetted figure there is hardly intimidating -- short and squat and smiling with a wide-eyed deadness that didn't seem to fit on the skeleton's round face.

Stepping closer, Sans shuffles his hands deeper into his hoodie pockets. His grin seems to magnify exponentially the closer he gets to Rinzler's cell. With an experimental tap on the bars, Sans cocks his skull to the side thoughtfully.

"Y'know, I've heard of a computer locking up before, but this is ridiculous."

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[personal profile] alan_1 2016-04-16 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
[Alan had debated whether or not to come down here at all. The horror, anger, and guilt he had felt watching the footage for the trials is still fresh in his mind, shot through with dread as he remembers what he said he would do -- what he has to do -- if the program broke his injunction against violence. And in the hours since, that reprimand and Rinzler’s response to it have played and replayed in Alan’s memory enough times that he knows even if he wanted answers, it’s unlikely Rinzler would supply them.

And yet here he is. Easier, perhaps, to stay away, to not have to face the program until the time comes for him to repair the error in his code, but for all the pain it might spare him, Alan can’t bring himself to be that cold. The program’s low rumble is just barely audible over the drone of the engines as Alan approaches his cell.

He had seen the glint of Rinzler’s injuries at the trial, but nothing compares to seeing them up close now, spidering over the program’s torso like breaks in glass. Alan remembers the video, the sickening crunch of collapsing code as Peter had slammed the disk into Rinzler’s side over and over again. The anger comes unbidden and instinctive, an echo of what he had felt watching the footage at the trial, and just as quickly turning inwards. Alan had let this happen. He could have stopped this, could have saved everyone before it started if only he’d acted sooner, and isn’t that just perfect coming from him? Twenty years and he’s still making the same mistakes, only this time without the excuse of ignorance. He had known the risks. And he had known how to eliminate them. Only fear had stopped him from acting this time.

When he speaks, the anger doesn’t reach his voice -- only regret and resignation.]


Rinzler.

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[personal profile] visionarie 2016-04-16 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
He enters the holding cell taking in the synthetic with a heavy heart. The scene echoes a vision of Ultron and his final demise at his hands. In the end, he had not wished for Ultron's death and he did not wish for Rinzler's either, yet with little knowledge of the justice system on this ship he had no guarantee they would not harm them. This was the reason for his unease during the trial, a state of being he easily hid under a mask of neutrality. After all, the court was a place for facts not sentiment. But the trial was done and over with and Vision... he could let someone so familiar yet unknown be locked away so easily when it was obvious they required help.

He steps into their line of sight and his eyes linger on the destruction still ailing his form.

"Do you--"

His lips press together, finding it difficult to voice his initial words when this unique being whose balance had tipped causing destruction in their wake was left in this state even after their sentence.

"-- Are you in pain?"
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[personal profile] quixotically 2016-04-16 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Elle...

...

Elle puts a lot of thought into this, before she comes down to the hold. When she's been off-duty, she's been wearing her clothes from home, for the most part. Her Pre-War dress, the white T-shirt and jeans of the Kings' outfit... But, today, she leaves those behind. Today, she's actually wearing her civilian uniform, with its yellow stripes. But, over it, she's pulling on something else. A duster. She's taking her pack with her, as always, which means it'll cover up the symbol on the back. But, once she reaches Rinzler's cell, she's going to take it off, leave it sitting on the floor nearby. It's important, even if she doesn't intend to show Rinzler her back -- not because of any worry for her safety, but because it defeats her purpose.

She waits to say anything until her pack is on the floor, and even then, she gives herself a moment to gather her wits one last time. She uses the time to take a deep breath, too, while she's at it.

"Hey." She sticks her hands in her pockets. She looks Rinzler over, concern flickering openly on her face. In the end, that's what she seems to give in to, because what she says next is, "Are you okay?" It's a stupid question, she knows. He doesn't look okay. But she has to ask, anyway.

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[personal profile] fight4theusers 2016-04-16 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
Their last conversation through a cell door hadn't gone especially well. Still, Tron couldn't stay away, not after what he'd seen... what he still has yet to understand.

Pausing by the window, Tron peers through the glass at his counterpart, his brow furrowing as he observes the damage more closely. Hasn't Rinzler allowed anyone...? No, he wouldn't. Tron remembers those lock protocols, the directives that only Clu, the admin would have access to repair him. Still, those cracks look too extensive for self-repair, and Sam and Alan could probably break those protocols...

"You don't seem to be functioning at full capacity, program," he says, perhaps a dry attempt at humor.

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[personal profile] heart_breaking 2016-04-17 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
"You're in my room."

They're gone one moment, and there when the light flickers back on next. It's too theatrical to be anything but deliberate, but they keep their face straight anyway. A man is dead, and others are jailed or injured.

And somehow, of course, people are surprised. They haven't figured out how pointless it all is, that lives in this world are like gossamer whisps on the wind. It's like they expect that if they go through the motions enough, that all their deeper meanings will change. It's useless. They're useless.

Chara stays in that spot by the bars, waiting.
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About the 19th after Vision's network post

[personal profile] needsnoface 2016-04-18 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
BB is not one usually to get fully involved in such things as organic justice systems, but even with the fact there was clear cut proof of what Rinzler had done, the very nature of the system and how it could easily have gone worse if mob mentality had been allowed to gain momentum has him monitoring discreetly mostly.

However, the lack of any regulation of who can and can not visit the other, and whenever they feel like it had raised quite a few alarms. The deplorable conditions were also a bone of contention, but short of them commandeering a room with proper environmental controls and overhauling this pit there's nothing that can be done until those with physical bodies realized this as well.


His hologram slowly materializes instead of the usual pop up, a bit of a warning and hopefully a miniscule deterrent for anyone that may come down with less then stellar intentions if they knew they had a witness.

"Back home these conditions would have had someone regretting their life. Even my team had better condition for prisoners, even though most would prefer those prisoners dead. However, you're not really interested in such and if you want me to leave just point towards to the door. If not I'm going to sit here and play Watcher for you.

Vision, a nice fellow for being enbody and all, is putting in a plea for you in regards to these horrible conditions you're suffering under currently. Perhaps he'll open a few eyes to the fact there may or may not be more to what you did then just you deciding it was a lovely day to kill a few people. He's even asking for someone to show empathy and help you self repair that damage you took so you don't end up deleted on us. You don't have to take any help, that is your choice and all, you seem like a few soldiers I know that would say they're fine when close to death.

He's actually why I'm here, so you can thank him for indirectly causing me to actually stop being a neutral observer in all of this, I'll be willing to catalog and report any attempts of vigilante justice. After all such things would be a show of hypocrisy for all those who see you in a certain light and refuse to wonder if it is nature or coding that is causing such things and if they are making it worse."

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[personal profile] trap_factory 2016-04-18 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Like with the trial, Prometheus shows up randomly and silently and never for long. A few times, he stands out of view but nearby and leaves when his scanners pick up on another presence approaching. Rinzler would be able to pick up on his presence if he cared to look, but for the most part, the Reploid doesn't say anything.

The shorter visits has Prometheus standing in front of the door, watching Rinzler and seemingly unimpressed - though he grins at the captive if or when Rinzler decides to look up - before he leaves. If he caught Rinzler while the other was shut down, there is no comment. It confirms his suspicions, but like it was in that shared dorm room back at the school, it was too close - too intimate - to use.

It's one of the later visits that has the Reploid finally start a conversation in a lazy drawl.

"I always knew we were our own worst enemy... I'm so happy you're one of the people to prove me right, Rinzler."

He smiles and on the surface, he looks like some cat that got into the cream, all satisfaction and amusement. But Rinzler has known Prometheus for a few months now; that edge that accompanies his smile is different this time. It's more akin to anger than whatever threat he normally walked around with.

"But what a joke. Do the captains sincerely believe this sort of punishment will net results? Last I checked, this sort of thing barely works on humans let alone on some rogue program," the smile widens and he sounds... Bitter. Bitter and tired and it doesn't go with that expression on his face at all. "I wonder what your programmer thinks. A gentle soul like him... I can't even imagine what you've gone and put him through."

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These conditions were bad enough for Sam, and he was just your average, run of the mill human. On electronics it was bad, but it was already a marvel they were even here, this heat must be murder on Programs.

...there's an irony even in thinking it.

It didn't help that Sam was wearing 2 layers either. He did figure if Rinzler wanted him dead, he would be. So he was able to open the door of the holding cell and walk right in.

"Hey."

A charging pack was thrown in Rinzler's general direction. It landed on the floor with a light thump. Rinzler was free to take it, or ignore it. Either way Sam leaned his shoulder next to the closed door, crossed a foot over the other and shoved his hands into his uniform's pockets.

"You look terrible."

More deja vu. He said the exact same thing to Tron once upon a time.

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Satine stands for a long moment simply studying Rinzler. His injuries make it clear that he is not an organic life-form. Some sort of droid, then? But why would a droid be put on trial? Surely the one held responsible for murderous actions carried out by a machine ought to be whoever programmed it?

Vision referred to him as sentient. True artificial intelligence... When does personhood start? At what point does a machine become more than a tool? Do battle droids doubt? Do they fear? Do they individually have the ability to decide to lay down their arms? These aren't questions she has asked herself much, but she finds that they flood her mind now. Arrogance takes many forms, and is rarely accompanied by taking responsibility for whatever comes of it, something that rings true for a multitude of species.

"Hello."

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Cassandra stands before his holding cell, watching him from his place on the bench. After speaking to Vision, she's promised to try and help Rinzler as best as she can. She doesn't really understand the fact that he's made of code, as Vision put it, but knows that trying to make him comfortable is the right thing to do. It's not fair that he doesn't get treatment when it's needed.

"You don't know me," she starts speaking, quiet as she keeps her eyes on him. "But I'm new here. My name's Cassandra."

She doubts he really cares who in the hell she is, though, so she doesn't introduce herself further than that.

"Are you hurting?"

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Elizabeth has been turning this issue over and over in her mind, the situation feels completely out of control for the first few days but she finally manages to get herself together enough to meet with Rinzler. Peter is one thing, but her only interaction with Rinzler hasn't been entirely positive. This is a delicate thing, but something she feels she has to do.

She stops in front of his cell and waits for him to notice her, her expression entirely neutral.

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